elusiveat ([info]elusiveat) wrote,
@ 2008-04-23 16:28:00
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Poll: assertions made in the previous threads on religion (etc.)
Some of it serious, some of it silly. My secret goal is to know where people stand on the atheism as a religion issue. If the poll isn't your style feel free to respond to that question in comments.


Poll #1175982 Religious assertions
Open to: All, detailed results viewable to: Friends

"Why we argue is completely orthogonal to religion."

Agree
6 (46.2%)

Disagree
3 (23.1%)

Mu
4 (30.8%)

We argue because of tribalism.

Agree
6 (46.2%)

Disagree
5 (38.5%)

Mu
2 (15.4%)

"I don't think core values are universal."

Agree
8 (57.1%)

Disagree
4 (28.6%)

Mu
2 (14.3%)

"Religion is often a codification of culture."

Agree
11 (78.6%)

Disagree
2 (14.3%)

Mu
1 (7.1%)

"We argue because common drives unite all life."

Agree
3 (23.1%)

Disagree
5 (38.5%)

Mu
5 (38.5%)

We argue because "Language is simultaneously very fuzzy and extremely specific."

Agree
7 (53.8%)

Disagree
2 (15.4%)

Mu
4 (30.8%)

"...we break into tribes because society as it stands right now is very big, and very impersonal."

Agree
5 (33.3%)

Disagree
7 (46.7%)

Mu
3 (20.0%)

Katkt is "a godlike super-being and all must worship [him]."

Agree
0 (0.0%)

Disagree
5 (45.5%)

Mu
6 (54.5%)

"...we are in the midst of a huge backlash to this trend [of weakening tribal identity post WWII]."

Agree
4 (36.4%)

Disagree
2 (18.2%)

Mu
5 (45.5%)

"Home ownership has been on the fall since shortly after WWII."

Agree
3 (25.0%)

Disagree
3 (25.0%)

Mu
6 (50.0%)

"...megachurches lost a lot of their impetus after the 80's."

Agree
3 (25.0%)

Disagree
5 (41.7%)

Mu
4 (33.3%)

"Population density has also been on the rise, making it not only harder to live in isolation, but harder to choose one's neighbors."

Agree
9 (60.0%)

Disagree
3 (20.0%)

Mu
3 (20.0%)

"Increased population density doesn't make it harder to choose your neighbors. It makes it easier."

Agree
4 (26.7%)

Disagree
6 (40.0%)

Mu
5 (33.3%)

"It is not that you do not need to be any of these [Pagan, Christian, Muslim, Animist, Hindu, Jewish, Atheist, or Buddhist]; it is that you must be all of them."

Agree
1 (7.1%)

Disagree
10 (71.4%)

Mu
3 (21.4%)

"What all this comes down to is; one doesn't have to be religious in order to be a good person or have a moral conscience or live a meaningful, virtuous life."

Agree
14 (87.5%)

Disagree
1 (6.2%)

Mu
1 (6.2%)

"I tend to group animism ... under paganism [or neopaganism]."

Agree
5 (41.7%)

Disagree
5 (41.7%)

Mu
2 (16.7%)

"I tend to group ... pantheism ... under paganism [or neopaganism]."

Agree
3 (23.1%)

Disagree
7 (53.8%)

Mu
3 (23.1%)

"Atheism doesn't really belong on the list [of choices of religions/religious identificaton]."

Agree
2 (12.5%)

Disagree
12 (75.0%)

Mu
2 (12.5%)




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[info]ratatosk
2008-04-23 10:53 pm UTC (link)
I used "mu" to indicate either "sometimes" or "I don't know."

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Fourth option
[info]squirrelitude
2008-04-24 01:01 am UTC (link)
Another option is to not answer the question. LJ will let you do that.

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Re: Fourth option
[info]elusiveat
2008-04-24 04:38 am UTC (link)
Tickybox.

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[info]tpau
2008-04-24 01:21 am UTC (link)
i tend to think of atheism is a set of beliefls like all others. while i think one does not need a religion to be agood person i think one needs a set of beliefs and convictions.

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[info]metahacker
2008-04-24 02:25 am UTC (link)
Atheism is what religious people call non-religious people. It's like 'goy', or 'pagan'. A word defining a people as 'not us, using our framework'. It inherently defines people in terms of a characteristics which inherently buy into the very thing rejected. It hurts my brain....define a thing by the thing it is rejecting...?

Except that atheists picked up the term, and some wear it proud. And the agnostic came along, to make better distinctions. Which sort of allowed atheist to be back on the list of 'religions' again, because at least it was defined as "not them".

Then there's 'theist', which I find hilarious. It's like people calling themselves "unpagan". (Except it's got a better linguistic root.)

I like the old quip -- "I disbelieve proof of the existance of *two* gods -- I am diagnostic."

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[info]elusiveat
2008-04-24 04:37 am UTC (link)
I believe I generally hear "theist" used as a pejorative by atheists against people who believe in the supernatural.

Edited at 2008-04-24 04:37 am UTC

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